Illegal Protest

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I had many questions about the details of this story, that many in the media seemed all too happy to overlook in their zealous quest to elevate Jesus Manuel Cordova to hero status. Imagine that! An illegal alien who did something we would all consider normal human behavior - he chose not to abandon a 9 year old boy in the desert after the van his mother was driving rolled down a steep embankment in the desert.

So I requested and received a copy of the police report from the Santa Cruz Sheriff’s office. There are some very interesting differences in the report vs what was reported in the media.

Now I do agree that what Jesus Manuel Cordova did was indeed above and beyond what one would expect of a regular illegal alien who was sneaking into the US. He did a very kind thing by staying with the boy. However, he did not *rescue* the boy and after I received the initial police report of the incident today, I can safely say that perhaps he was actually *negligent* in his “heroic efforts”. A question came to my mind immediately upon reading through the report.

Here is the paragraph that begs for more information - this is the account given by Jesus Cordova to the police after the incident and it immediately follows his description of having encountered the boy in the area of the van accident approximately 1.5 hours after the accident (5:00pm) which had occurred at 3:30pm:

Manuel Jesus told me he approached the van and could hear a female’s voice complaining of pain or in agony. He told me he could not see or reach the female to aid her due to the rough and steep terrain. Manuel Jesus then told me he came back to the top of the canyon and started a campfire in hopes that someone would see the smoke and come to their aid.

Ok.. here is what bugs me about this. He HEARS the boy’s mother IN PAIN in the van. He tells the police he can’t reach her, but SHE WAS ALIVE WHEN CORDOVA ENCOUNTERED THE BOY AND THE ACCIDENT SCENE. It was 5pm - not exactly the dead of night. It was just beginning to get dark. They were located about 6 miles from State Route 289 and they were also about 6 miles from the Pena Blanca Lake campground where the boy and his mother had been staying.

And it gets better… this is what Cordova told Amanda Lee Myers of The Associated Press:

By the looks of the mangled van down below, Cordova said, it was obvious the boy’s mother had died. The child was distraught but did not cry.

“I felt frustrated and sad because I couldn’t do anything for the mother,” Cordova said. “And I didn’t know how to console the boy, so I just sat next to him.”

Cordova gave the boy the sweater he was wearing, climbed down to the van and found chocolate and cookies to feed him.

So Cordova was able to get to the van and find chocolate and cookies but he couldn’t help the mother? You would think a “hero” would have tried to get help for the mother while she was still alive. What kind of person makes a fire and sits next to it for fourteen hours while a woman lay dying nearby?

AND he told the police who couldn’t reach the van.. but he told Amanda Myers of the AP that he was able to find chocolate and cookies in the van.. Anyone thinking to ask Mr Cordova a few more questions???

If he were truly a hero as everyone is making him out to be, he would have tried to get help RIGHT AWAY before the boy’s mother died HOURS LATER while in agony the entire time. What kind of hero is that I ask you?

Thanks to Digger for reading the police report and finding this little gem of information in it regarding the condition of Dawn Tomko’s body found by the firefighter Teddy Sang:

Teddy Sang stated that he noticed the onset of rigor mortis.

This was after he pronounced her dead at 8:23am. So if you know anything about how long it takes for rigor mortis to set in, then that means Dawn Tomko, the boy’s mother, did not die until 3 or 4am.. about TEN HOURS after the so-called hero Jesus Manuel Cordova came upon the scene. Rigor mortis does not occur for at LEAST 3 hours after a person has died. Her injuries were not noticeable except for a large gash on her arm. So to anyone coming upon the accident scene it certainly was not apparent that she had died and now we know THAT SHE HAD NOT DIED until only 3-4 hours before help arrived! Had this so-called “hero” traveled the 6 miles to the White Rock Campground (average walking speed is about 3-4 miles per hour) , or in fact traveled in ANY direction to get help, he may have been able to save her life and that would have made him a true hero.

Here are directions to the Sycamore Canyone area where the accident happened, near the Pena Blanca Lake campground:

Access: Turn west off Interstate 19 at the Peña Blanca/Ruby Road ( AZ Hwy 289). The exit is approximately 8 miles north of Nogales. Follow this road 9 miles to Peña Blanca Recreation Area where the pavement ends and the Arivaca-Ruby Road becomes FR 39. Drive a total of 8.5 miles from the end of the pavement to the Sycamore Canyon Road (FR 218) which turns left (south) to the trailhead at the Hank and Yank Ruins historical marker.

To get to the Border Trail turn off FR 39 onto the Summit Motorway (FR 39A) 2.5 miles from the end of the pavement at Peña Blanca Lake. FR 39A is a 4-wheel drive road.

More details about Sycamore Canyon:

About 5 miles downstream of the trailhead, the canyon opens out and crosses a barbed wire fence that marks the Arizona/Mexico border. Here, you can either turn around and return the way you came or turn east and travel along a little-used pathway called the Border Trail. This foot and horse path was put here to provide access for maintenance of the international boundary fence. It leads over the grassy foothills of the Pajaritos to the end of the Summit Motorway (FR 39A), which may sound like a thoroughfare, but it’s a 4-wheel drive road.

Here’s a map of the Pena Blanca area as well:

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And here is the description from the Santa Cruz County Sheriff’s office police report of the accident location:

From the reporting officer: I then proceeded onto State Route 289 until I reached Forest Service Road 39. I reset the vehicle odometer at the entrance of Forest Service Road 39 from State Route 289. I proceeded in a southwestern direction on the narrow mountain road until I reached the collision scene at approximately mile post six on Forest Service Road 39.

In my mind, if Jesus Manuel Cordova had truly been a hero, he would have walked to find help that was not that far away, rather than passively setting a fire and waiting for someone to discover them. Why did he wait until morning to do so? Why did he not try to get help for the dying Dawn Tomko? Why did he let her spend her last hours dying in agony?

And I have some other questions too. How in the world did Christopher Buchleitner AND two dogs escape this accident with only minor injuries? That is truly the miracle in this story - not that Jesus Manuel Cordova did what any human being would have done.. but then again maybe he didn’t.

Other posts on this topic can be found here

Oh and in case you didn’t hear, Rep Raul Grijalva introduced a private bill on December 7th, 2007 to get this illegal alien, Jesus Manuel Cordova, a special Visa for his heroic actions. The bill is HR 4339. Chances of this bill ever getting passed are slim but there are people like Luis Gutierrez and Sheila Jackon Lee on the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration so you never know what under-handed crap this committee might succeed in slipping in. Call your House Representative and let him know you don’t think Jesus Manuel Cordova deserves any part of citizenship for what he did on November 22nd. If someone thinks he deserves a reward, why don’t they send him some American dollars to his Mexican family?

Well how nice.. What a great father Manuel Jesus Cordova Soberanes is to leave his own children in search of work in the United States. Gee I thought it was ICE who was separating families… but it turns out that illegal immigration is actually separating families. What do you know!!

I love how they are putting this guy up on a pedestal because he was nice.. he is NOT a hero by any means. And now we come to find out he is a REPEAT border crosser AND he has left children of his own behind in Mexico? I’m sure they would prefer that Dad stay home instead of be away in the US for months on end.. I guess he makes it up to them by sending those American dollars back to support the family.

I don’t want to hear another GOD DAMN sob story about houw ICE is “separating families” with raids. It turns out they are actually bringing them together..with their first family they left in Mexico that is…

By Amanda Lee Myers

Asscociated Press Writer

Tucson, Arizona | Published: 11.28.2007

 

 

PHOENIX — An illegal immigrant who rescued a 9-year-old boy from the southern Arizona desert said Wednesday he was thinking of his own four children when he halted his two-day walk from Mexico to help the boy.

Manuel Jesus Cordova Soberanes told The Associated Press that he never could have left the boy to continue his journey, even though he was just eight hours from reaching Tucson.

“I am a father of four children. For that, I stayed,” Cordova said in Spanish from his home in Magdalena de Kino in the Mexican state of Sonora. “I never could have left him. Never.”

Oh but he has no problem leaving his four children behind I guess?

If he had left, authorities say it could have meant death for the boy, 9-year-old Christopher Buztheitner, who had an injured leg, was dressed in shorts despite the desert cold and had just lost his mother in a car crash.

Certain death? From what? The temp was in the freaking 40’s. I’m sure he was cold but he was never in danger of dying for crying out loud. I’m sure it was scary to be out there alone in the desert. And here’s a question - why was he with the boy for 14 hours if he was only into his walk by two hours? That meant there was a border within a two hour walk.. and I know there was a campground within an even shorter walk - the campground where he was staying with his mother. What took 14 hours exactly???

Christopher and his mother, 45-year-old Dawn Alice Tomko, had been in the area camping, Santa Cruz County Sheriff Tony Estrada said.

He said Tomko was driving on a U.S. Forest Service road in a remote area just north of the Mexican border when she lost control of her van on a curve on Thanksgiving Day. The van vaulted off a cliff into a canyon and landed 300 feet from the road.

Cordova, a 26-year-old bricklayer who was hoping to find work in Arizona, said he was two days into his walk when he spotted Christopher, who had a dog with him and held a side mirror from the van. One of his legs also was scratched up and discolored.

The two could not communicate because Christopher only speaks English and Cordova only speaks Spanish. But Cordova said the boy took him to the canyon’s edge and showed him the accident.

The two would spend the next 14 hours together before a group of hunters found them and called for help. U.S. Border Patrol agents took Cordova into custody, and Christopher was flown to a hospital in Tucson.

Christopher was reunited with family over the weekend and Cordova was taken back to Mexico.

Update: Apparently Mr Cordova started a NEW family in the US and left his old family with the four kids back in Mexico. Nice guy right? Umm.. why don’t we ask his FIRST family how nice that is eh?

Cordova said he wanted to come to the United States to earn money to feed his four children, who live with their mother, and help support his girlfriend’s three children. “I have two families, many mouths to feed,” he said.

Source: Philadelphia Inquirer

Turns out it was his STEPFATHER who committed suicide two months ago so Christopher Buchleitner is NOT an orphan as is being reported. (**** See updated info below****) He did go through something horrific with his mother being killed in the car accident.. but I still have questions about the fact that the van supposedly plunged over a 300 foot cliff and he and apparently two dogs survived but the mother died… Questions questions questions…

And an AP reporter tells me the crash occurred at 3pm not 1am.. so how is it that this kid did not encounter the illegal alien until 3am and would he really have not survived till 8am when the hunters came by? It was certainly nice of the illegal to help the boy, but he certainly did not SAVE him as if being erroneously reported. I’d like to know from these pro-illegals how exactly he saved this boy? Was he in imminent danger? He had two dogs with him.. he had protection from a lot of wildlife. I love how this story has been SKEWED in favor of the “nice” illegal “entrant” or “migrant”.. and apparently this particular illegal has been a REPEAT OFFENDER “border crosser” which makes him INELIGIBLE for a green card no matter how nice he is. GOD I get so angry at these illegal alien supporters!!!!

Here is the REAL story from apparently a REAL reporter who is NOT with AP or another MSM outlet. He is the one who gets the story the MOST right! Than you Bruce Daniels!

Updated at 8:40am — Rescued Boy Reunited With Uncle, Dogs
Written by Bruce Daniels - ABQnewsSeeker Tuesday, 27 November 2007

Nine-year-old has lost both parents in the space of three months. Christopher Buchleitner, the 9-year-old boy who survived a steep plunge over a southern Arizona cliff on Thanksgiving night and was miraculously helped by an illegal immigrant, was reunited Monday with his uncle and aunt from the Farmington area and with the dogs who also survived the crash, the Arizona Daily Star is reporting.

Christopher’s mother, 45-year-old Dawn Alice Tomko of Rimrock, Ariz., died as a result of the crash when the van she was driving plunged over a cliff and into a canyon 60 miles southeast of Tucson, the Daily Star reported.

His mother’s brother, David Tomko of the Farmington area, told the Daily Star that Christopher’s father, Jack Buchleitner, had committed suicide on Labor Day, saying, “He’s been receiving counseling for the death of his father; now this is compounded on that … He’s going to need a lot of help.”

The boy, who was released from the hospital Monday, also was reunited with the family dogs who also miraculously survived the plunge and were rescued by Rio Rico, Ariz., firefighters last Friday morning, the Daily Star reported.

An 11-year-old male golden retriever named Tanner was unhurt in the crash, while the 10-year-old female Queensland heeler named Jade suffered cuts on her right hind leg, Rio Rico Fire Chief Michael Foster told the paper.

David Tomko and his wife Janice said they planned to take the boy back to his home in Rim Rock, Ariz., east of Prescott near Interstate 17 and near Camp Verde where Christopher’s mother had taught science in the high school for nine years, the Daily Star said.

And then, David Tomko told the paper, they plan to take Christopher back to the Pittsburgh, Pa., area where his parents’ families live.

Wherever Christopher ends up, the dogs will go with him, Tomko said.

“The dogs are definitely going with Christopher,” he said. “That’s the one remaining constant that he has.”

Meanwhile, Mexican authorities were looking for 26-year-old Jesus Manuel Cordova, the illegal border-crosser from the state of Sonora, who found Christopher wandering in the canyons Thanksgiving night and stayed with him until some hunters arrived — even though it meant his arrest and deportation, the paper said.

Several people, including the Rio Rico firefighters who were the first to arrive at the crash scene, want to find Cordova and thank him for his actions.

Foster, the fire chief, learned that both Christopher and Cordova have the same birthday — July 30 — and said the illegal immigrant was “almost sort of like a guardian angel,” the Daily Star reported.

“Chris was pretty lucky that Mr. Cordoval came along,” said Foster.

(NOTE: We’ve received some e-mails expressing skepticism that the boy could have survived a fall of 300 feet with only scratches and bruises, as has been reported earlier. That’s the equivalent of a 25-story building, points out one e-mailer, who thinks the boy wasn’t in the car when it went over the cliff.

That e-mailer suspects that the “misinformation” about last Thanksgiving’s events is coming from people who have a pro-illegal-immigrant agenda.

We put the question yesterday to Santa Cruz (Ariz.) County Sheriff Tony Estrada — who did indeed call Cordova an “angel” — about the reported drop of 300 feet, and he insisted it was true.

But the information about the events is “developing,” as we say, and the boy’s last name was given as “Buztheitner” by The Associated Press, and we were told that it was the boy’s stepfather who died two months ago, not his natural father, whose name is Buchleitner.

And one letter-writer to the Arizona Republic in Phoenix seems concerned that the tone of the story is far too favorable to illegal immigrants.

David Brinkman of Glendale tells the Republic he thinks Sheriff Estrada is wrong in saying we shouldn’t brand all illegal immigrants as criminals, pointing out that while Cordova’s actions are “commendable,” he’s still a criminal.

Welcome to the illegal immigration debate!

Stay tuned. It’s still an amazing — and heartbreaking — story, even if the details change somewhat.)

9:15am 11/26/07 – 4 Corners Man En Route To Pick Up Rescued Boy: Nine-year-old who was helped by illegal immigrant is getting out of hospital today. Christopher Buchleitner, (notice the boy’s last name now matches his biological fathers’s name) the 9-year-old boy who survived a crash last Thursday that killed his mother in the southern Arizona desert and was rescued by an illegal immigrant, will be released from the hospital today and picked up by his uncle, David Tomko, who lives in the Four Corners area, local officials told ABQjournal.com this morning.Santa Cruz County (Ariz.) Sheriff Tony Estrada told us that the boy, whose stepfather died about two months ago, will be reunited with his biological father who lives on the East Coast. (oh really Sheriff ? so he’s NOT an orphan after all now is he?) Estrada said the boy’s uncle, whose home town he didn’t know, was scheduled to pick up the boy today from the hospital where he was being treated for bruises he suffered when his mother’s van went over a steep cliff in a remote area northwest of Nogales, Ariz.It was “very fortunate” that the boy’s injuries were not more severe after the van driven by his mother, 45-year-old Dawn Alice Tomko of Rimrock, Ariz., plunged over a 300-foot cliff, Estrada told us.

And it was a miracle that a 26-year-old illegal immigrant from Magdalena de Kino, Sonora, Mexico, named Jesus Manuel Cordova, happened to be in that remote canyon area north of the Mexican border, said Estrada.

(umm not a miracle - there are signs posted there warning of high smuggling and illegal alien activity in the area)

“The boy was scared; this must have been the most traumatic event in his life and he was lost,” said Estrada. “Then an angel came along and stayed with him and supported him.”

(pardon me while I VOMIT)

The mother and son, who lived north of Phoenix, had been camping in the area when Dawn Tomko lost control of her van on a curve Thursday afternoon and vaulted off a cliff into a canyon, Estrada earlier told The Associated Press.

Christopher crawled up out of the canyon when he was found by Cordova, who had entered the country illegally, and the two made their way back to the crashed van where Tomko was trapped but still alive, Estrada told the AP. (and when exactly was he “found” by the illegal alien? 3am???)

When the mother died, Cordova comforted the boy, who was disoriented but unhurt, then wrapped him in a jacket and built a fire to keep him warm through the chilly desert night, the AP reported.

Around 8 Friday morning, Cordova flagged down a group of hunters who called for help, the AP said.

(so this kid was wandering around from Thursday afternoon till 8am Friday?)

Cordova surrendered to Border Patrol agents and agreed to be returned to Mexico without going through formal deportation proceedings, the AP reported.

Estrada told us this morning he wasn’t sure whether Cordova was deported immediately as a first-time illegal border-crosser, or whether he would be detained as a repeat crosser.

But Cordova’s actions likely saved Christopher’s life, and his giving the boy aid at the risk of being caught was a good reason we shouldn’t “demonize” illegal immigrants, Estrada told us.

Tomko also praised the man who already has been deported back to Mexico.

“His kindness, his generosity — you know he’s definitely a Good Samaritan,” Tomko told the paper. “It happened at the right time, and he definitely cared enough about our nephew that he did a great service.”

There is still some question as to when this crash occurred. Some were saying he encountered the illegal alien at 3am and the crash had happened two hours before. The AP reporter Terry Tang says the crash happened at 3pm… So.. which is it? Lots of shifting details about this story… could it be that Sheriff Estrada adjusted the facts to fit neatly into his “illegal alien saves orphan” story?

************ Update ******************

I discovered through an obituaries search that Jack Buchleitner was indeed Christopher Buchleitner’s father and he did indeed commit suicide on Labor Day so Christopher is an orphan. This does NOT change my position on the fact that Jesus Cordova is NOT a hero - he is simply a nice guy… and we don’t ignore law breaking because someone is a “nice guy” once in his life. Sorry but you won’t get any support for him from me except a pat on the back on his way back to Mexico. I only wish more illegal aliens were as nice as Jesus Cordova but he does NOT deserve any kind of “VISA” from us for being “nice”. Sorry. That’s just the way I feel and it is NOT racially motivated. It is illegally motivated. Period.

First I’d just like to point out that the Arizona Republic is clearly on the “pro-illegal” side of the fence because they are drinking the “undocumented migrant” kool aid. At least these publications are much clearer to pick out now that they have sanitized the word “illegal alien” from their stories. So one doesn’t have to work as hard to figure the slant of a publication when they so willingly bow to the MSM kinder, gentler handling of that nasty harsh phrase - illegal alien. Oh you big meanies that still use that term!

Read the story - and you decide exactly how much “saving” this illegal alien did here.. He gave the kid his jacket and started a bonfire…but had this 9 year old not encountered the “good migrant” - wouldn’t he also have encountered the same hunters at 8am the next morning? I also don’t know too many single illegal aliens crossing the desert… I suspect there were more illegals and this guy just drew the short straw when the rest of the group moved on. I can’t wait for the REAL truth to eventually come out when this 9 year starts talking about it some more. It wouldn’t even surprise me if the 9 year old had been molested overnight… Call me cynical if you want…

File this one under propaganda because this is all part of the new Mexican initiative to paint illegal aliens as “nice” people and victims of the big bad racists. Well we need to do some of our own propaganda… we need to tell some of the stories of people who had to find other ways to work when the illegals came in and stole their livelihood.. or maybe some heart wrenching stories from the families of victims who were raped and murdered by illegal aliens…

Bob Christie
Associated Press
Nov. 25, 2007 12:00 AM

Authorities have located a relative of a 9-year-old boy who was rescued from the southern Arizona desert by an undocumented migrant after his mother was killed in a car crash.

Santa Cruz County Sheriff Tony Estrada said Saturday that officials had found the brother of the dead woman in New Mexico, and he was on the way to Arizona to pick up the boy. The boy’s father died about two months ago.

Estrada identified the dead woman as Dawn Alice Tomko, 45, of Rimrock, a small town north of Phoenix. Her son was in the care of state child welfare officials.

The boy, Christopher Buztheitner, was found on Thanksgiving evening wandering in a remote canyon a few miles north of the Mexican border by an immigrant trying to walk into the U.S. The boy led the man back to his mother’s crashed van, Estrada said.

The migrant was identified as Jesus Manuel Cordova, 26, of Magdalena de Kino in the northern Mexican state of Sonora.

The mother and son had been in a remote area northwest of the border town of Nogales, Ariz., on a camping trip, Estrada said. Tomko lost control on a curve Thursday afternoon and the van flew off a cliff, crashing into a canyon. Christopher crawled out and went for help.

Tomko was trapped in the van and still alive when Christopher returned with Cordova, but died soon afterward. Cordova comforted the boy, who was disoriented but unhurt, wrapped him in a jacket and lit a bonfire to keep him warm through the chilly desert night.

About 8 a.m. Friday, Cordova flagged down a group of hunters and they called for help. Cordova surrendered to Border Patrol agents and agreed to be returned to Mexico without going through formal deportation proceedings.

Calls to the Mexican consulates in Nogales and Tucson seeking more information about him Saturday weren’t returned.

Estrada said earlier that Cordova’s actions likely saved the boy and he risked being caught to do what was right. He said it should serve as a reminder that most undocumented migrants are good people.

“They respond where there’s a need,” Estrada said. “We’re very grateful that he was there.”

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Yeah that’s right.. such great people.. uh huh… the ones who put their girls into prostitution as their ticket to the American Dream right? Yeah .. thought so…

Oh and the details are.. that the Green Astro Van his mother was driving plunged off a 300 foot cliff …. so.. where was her son exactly when this happened? hmmm? 300 feet equates to roughly 25 stories if you figure on 12 feet per story… The son just had “bruises”….. ? After being in a van that fell 25 stories??? Something is fishy here…

Nine-year-old who was helped by illegal immigrant is getting out of hospital today.

Christopher Buztheitner, the 9-year-old boy who survived a crash last Thursday that killed his mother in the southern Arizona desert and was rescued by an illegal immigrant, will be released from the hospital today and picked up by his uncle, David Tomko, who lives in the Four Corners area, local officials told ABQjournal.com this morning.

Santa Cruz County (Ariz.) Sheriff Tony Estrada told us that the boy, whose stepfather died about two months ago, will be reunited with his biological father who lives on the East Coast.

Estrada said the boy’s uncle, whose home town he didn’t know, was scheduled to pick up the boy today from the hospital where he was being treated for bruises he suffered when his mother’s van went over a steep cliff in a remote area northwest of Nogales, Ariz.

It was “very fortunate” that the boy’s injuries were not more severe after the van driven by his mother, 45-year-old Dawn Alice Tomko of Rimrock, Ariz., plunged over a 300-foot cliff, Estrada told us.

Source: ABQNews

The Arizona Star gets the prize for the most creative way to describe the illegal alien who rescued the 9 year old:

Uncle coming to help boy rescued by entrant

By Bob Christie
The Associated Press
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 11.26.2007

PHOENIX — Authorities have located a relative of a 9-year-old boy who was rescued from the Southern Arizona desert by an illegal entrant after his mother was killed in a car crash.

Santa Cruz County Sheriff Tony Estrada said that officials had found the brother of the dead woman in New Mexico, and he was on the way to Arizona to pick up the boy. The boy’s father died about two months ago, so he is now an orphan

Umm.. hello journalists? He is NOT an ORPHAN. He has a BIOLOGICAL FATHER WHO IS STILL ALIVE. It was his STEPFATHER who died two months ago.

And.. what exactly IS an “illegal entrant”? Somehow the word “entrant” implies that the person had a right to enter…or.. someone who is entering a contest.. yeah.. like the lottery.. which is exactly what illegal immigration is in this country.. Unbelievable.. how they try to SPIN the illegal alien term. Sickening in fact.

Here is the dictionary.com definition of the word “entrant”:

1. a competitor in a contest.
2. a new member, as of an association or school.
3. a person who enters.

Seems like all these open borders idiots are trying out new terms to soften the phrase “illegal alien”… Let’s just call them what they are - ILLEGAL and ALIEN. No need to change it - I don’t care how NICE they might be…